Possible Star Fox movie. Spread the word.

[T.W.]

I have to say that I am genuinely intrigued about this, especially the music. The only negative thing I can say right now is that Fox's character model looks too old to be 17, but we only have one picture, so it's hard to tell. I won't say much about the story because this isn't even a treatment, only a proposal. It's impossible to tell what of this will be in the final movie, if there is a final movie at all. If this Falco/Katt thing does make it, it could actually be played out well. Does anyone remember that both Metroid Prime and Zelda: Wind Waker were hated when fans got wind of those two? Now, if you look at them, those are two of the most highly rated games, not just of their series, but of all games. Honestly, it might just be better to wait and see what the future holds.

[Falcory]

I have to say that I am genuinely intrigued about this, especially the music. The only negative thing I can say right now is that Fox's character model looks too old to be 17, but we only have one picture, so it's hard to tell. I won't say much about the story because this isn't even a treatment, only a proposal. It's impossible to tell what of this will be in the final movie, if there is a final movie at all. If this Falco/Katt thing does make it, it could actually be played out well. Does anyone remember that both Metroid Prime and Zelda: Wind Waker were hated when fans got wind of those two? Now, if you look at them, those are two of the most highly rated games, not just of their series, but of all games. Honestly, it might just be better to wait and see what the future holds.

I agree with you that you don't know what the future holds. A lot of things do usually end up changing in the final product, and people who didn't even know of the original plot are shocked to the core. For example I didn't know lightsabers were once going to be commonly used by basically anyone in the original Star Wars film.

But you can't exactly compare Wind Waker and Prime to this situation. Wind Waker and Prime were gameplay and style changes, not necessarily character changes. A good example of a character change would be Krystal in Command which was a  game that WASN'T received well at all. Personally it didn't even bother me that much, because it wasn't really contradicting: She became that way after leaving Fox and joining Starwolf/The Cornerian Army. Things like that can make a person bitter.

But this is even more different. This is a re-telling of the Lylat Wars.  A story were we already saw how Katt and Falco acts doing this time period. Even though Krystal is more popular than the two characters combined.....this is still sort of a bigger deal.

[T.W.]

I agree with you that you don't know what the future holds. A lot of things do usually end up changing in the final product, and people who didn't even know of the original plot are shocked to the core. For example I didn't know lightsabers were once going to be commonly used by basically anyone in the original Star Wars film.

But you can't exactly compare Wind Waker and Prime to this situation. Wind Waker and Prime were gameplay and style changes, not necessarily character changes. A good example of a character change would be Krystal in Command which was a  game that WASN'T received well at all. Personally it didn't even bother me that much, because it wasn't really contradicting: She became that way after leaving Fox and joining Starwolf/The Cornerian Army. Things like that can make a person bitter.

But this is even more different. This is a re-telling of the Lylat Wars.  A story were we already saw how Katt and Falco acts doing this time period. Even though Krystal is more popular than the two characters combined.....this is still sort of a bigger deal.

While I was just going for the general message of wait until you play/see, you do have a point and I probably could have picked a better example. Another thing to remember is that Nintendo won't allow just anything. They might greenlight the movie on the condition that he cuts something such as references to the SNES comic or the Falco/Katt thing. Also, he has to make a movie that would be commercially successful, so it can't just cater to the SF645 fans. He'll probably keep as close to the game's story as possible, but will also have to make it so that people who haven't played Star Fox can understand what's going on. Especially considering the fact that the number of people who have played Star Fox 64 is less than the number of people who haven't.

[Falcory]

While I was just going for the general message of wait until you play/see, you do have a point and I probably could have picked a better example. Another thing to remember is that Nintendo won't allow just anything. They might greenlight the movie on the condition that he cuts something such as references to the SNES comic or the Falco/Katt thing. Also, he has to make a movie that would be commercially successful, so it can't just cater to the SF645 fans. He'll probably keep as close to the game's story as possible, but will also have to make it so that people who haven't played Star Fox can understand what's going on. Especially considering the fact that the number of people who have played Star Fox 64 is less than the number of people who haven't.

Right. I do agree with this.

[Lord Asriel]

Well, looks like he got the voice actor who dubbed Peppy in SF Assault. I guess it's pretty serious.

[Lord Asriel]

The facebook page of the project.

[Zzz]

Yeah also Liam Neeson...

I don't know what he's exactly trying to tell us but I guess he only THINKS about these actors....

Some other facebook users asked him already what he meant, so we'll have to wait for the answer

[Lord Asriel]

Some other facebook users asked him already what he meant, so we'll have to wait for the answer

Yeah, that was me actually.  :)

[Zzz]

oh hehe, thanks then

[DZComposer]

I'm 99.5% confident that he means these are the people he'd like to cast in the roles.

Remember, this project is still in the proposal stage. Actually casting it now would be a rather cocky move, and quite frankly pretty damn stupid. Hiring people to do the voice acting without having a greenlight yet is asking for trouble.

Here is what he posted in the comment thread on the main SFO site:

To answer your question DZComposer, i do apologies for answering this very late,

I have been dealing with Bill Trinen, Nintendo’s Marketing director at the North America branch in early of February 2010 ( you can search him up). I have sent in the film proposal and synopsis, the beta music and a brief drawing to him on May 15 2010. His response is that he would look through it, and show it to a few developers (which i don’t know who they are…),and get back to him with four months time. On October 8, 2010, at 10:27:42 PM i get an email from Mr. Trinen and stated the following:

” Thank you very much for your interest in developing a feature film based on Nintendo’s Star Fox franchise. Unfortunately, Nintendo is not interested in pursuing this opportunity at this time.

As such, we’ve deleted from our files our copy of the materials you prepared, but we will keep your contact information on hand in the event we need to contact you about the opportunity again at some point in the future.

Thank you again for your interest and efforts, but we respectfully decline your proposal at this time. We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.

Sincerely,

Bill Trinen

Product Marketing Director

Nintendo of America, Inc.”

So guys, i have no clue if Mr Trinen did “or” did not do anything with the project, so there for i did “not” get the reason as to why they weren’t interested?

At this point I’m continuing with the project build up and will be going for “round two” some times in the near future.

At this this time i would like to thank you DZComposer for putting the interest of my project idea on your site, most appreciated and bring the fans together and support. I’ll continue in working to bring more visual concepts and ideas on the floor, and anyone who has and questions on there minds, please, all that matter is “communication” in order to have the full trust,feedback and faith in oreder to make Starfox film a reality.

PSS, to all of you, I have no intention if making this adaptation product a dvd, or internet film release, I’m aiming in making this become the first “major” successful theatrical video game adaptation release

This makes it clear that he is building up the project to improve his chances at getting a greenlight from Nintendo.

I'm also starting to get the impression that he is going to try to do this indie. I have not seen anything yet that leads me to believe he has proposed it to any major studios.

Remember: Nintendo's standard position is to say no. To get a greenlight from this will take time, and possibly some serious backing. Of course backing from the fans may help.

[Zzz]

oh that translator guy from the e3 2010?

anyway does that mean he only wants to try harder CONVINCING nintendo instead of working on the script some more?

I think I understand the situation better now. I also doubt Mr Trinen actually showed anybody his proposal. So that would explain Irwin's move

[DZComposer]

Oh, BTW, lol @ Michael Clarke Duncan as Andross.

Anyway, having a more complete script would likely help his case to Nintendo.

Of course he can always try to end-run around NOA and contact someone at NCL as well.

[Zzz]

Anyway, having a more complete script would likely help his case to Nintendo.

That's what I'm thinking about, too.

In all honesty, a complete and interesting script is the only thing that should matter in the end.

Fans supporting him with clicking the "like" button on facebook won't make the script any better, it's actually weird. Sounds more like a petition.

What he really needs, given the script is any good, is a big studio backing him up. But you should ask Dras about this over on AL. She knows how things like this work better anyway.

Any infos on if he actually wrote a script at all? Or do we only have an idea for one?

[Lord Asriel]

There was that short overall approach of the script which led to that living debate in here, as to how he was ruining the series adding some mental issues to Katt...

[Zzz]

Oh I know there isn't a whole script to be found. Just wondering if he actually wrote one and hasn't released it yet

To answer your question P.Cousyn, these are people who I ~think~ would be good for the voice cast.

There you have it, btw.

[Falcory]

Fans supporting him with clicking the "like" button on facebook won't make the script any better, it's actually weird. Sounds more like a petition.

What he really needs, given the script is any good, is a big studio backing him up.

This is what I was thinking. Fan petitioning generally doesn't help things like this whatsoever. He would need a big studio's interests, or at least a friend in some high places.

Then it also depends on how the well written the script is as well. If Nintendo thinks he may be deviating from some things in their franchise (And I just mean by other things in general, not by just the Katt thing earlier or the Peppy commander etc) they may not green-light it as well. After all Nintendo is mainly in the pursuit of money and if they have any marketing sense they'll probably realize that movies that deviate from source material (Aka Legend of Chun-Li, Dragonball Evolution, Ghost Rider the list can go on) will more than likely flop.

[Zzz]

On second thought only an idea might be interesting to Nintendo.

Thanks to DZ's heads-up I found a pretty direct and good question asked by one of the users (are they users?)

Irwin wants this to be the first true Video game adaptation. But how is his project any different from other games based on popular video games?

If he had some really revolutionary idea how to handle this then… yeah I don’t know. Maybe major studios would back him up or Nintendo would properly hear him out.  But as of now, there is absolutely no indication that this is the case here.

Another thing…. He mentioned there will be voice actor suggestions for Wolf and Leon, as well. So Starwolf definitely is in this movie but it looks like they have such a small role here that they’re not even mentioned in the story summary.

[myu]

I'm not really surprised that Nintendo "allegedly" didn't even look at his proposal since he apparently doesn't have a full script, you shouldn't really approach anyone without one. It's also a risky move since you can't copyright ideas, and if you pitch one to people with the money to do it, they can take your idea without giving credit to you whatsoever - although I'm not sure if he would even legally be able to copyright a Star Fox script since he doesn't own the source material. He should probably get a studio to back him or something before going to Nintendo again.

Anyway, it looks promising. Read through the summary and I'm not quite sure how I feel. As of right now the story seems a bit too shallow to be a decent movie, but it's just a summary and those almost always never do anything justice. Definitely hoping Star Wolf would have a much bigger role, not sure why they weren't mentioned...

The character design he's got for Fox is interesting though. It makes me curious to see what the other characters will look like.