Star Fox Runner Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Well, seeing how we didn't really get anything "new" out of Nintendo World 2011, it's time for round 2 from the New York and Amsterdam conferences. They both start tomorrow and we're likely to hear of some surprise announcements.Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 PSP2 Hopefully Nintendo will reveal something more about the 3DS (i.e.demos, more games, etc ), or at least somewhat more than we have seen already :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorAllosaurus Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Just read Kotaku's livestream, nothing to exciting except that we now know the price ($249) and the release date. Also, no orange 3DS makes me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 3DS will launch on March 27, 2011 at an MSRP of $249.99 in the US.Europe launch on March 25, 2011, with pricing set by individual retailers. IGN has found a range of £219.99 – £229.99 in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 3DS will launch on March 27, 2011 at an MSRP of $249.99 in the US.Europe launch on March 25, 2011, with pricing set by individual retailers. IGN has found a range of £219.99 – £229.99 in the UK.What. The. Ffff. WHY SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Remember, there is no "true" equivalency between currencies. All an exchange rate means is how much of one currency you can buy with another. There are many other factors that go into pricing a product, including local overhead costs, taxes/tariffs, shipping, and pricing sweetspots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Yoshi Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 What are the release colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 black and blueNO RED :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Yoshi Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 black and blueNO RED Red has to come out SOME time...I saw a guy holding the damn thing. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 oh btw that conference was pretty disappointing. I didn't expect anything NEW but this false rumor about a new metroid game got me pretty excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Remember, there is no "true" equivalency between currencies. All an exchange rate means is how much of one currency you can buy with another. There are many other factors that go into pricing a product, including local overhead costs, taxes/tariffs, shipping, and pricing sweetspots.That's no excuse. eg. I know a couple of EU guys I buy games for because the price difference is extreme. When it becomes cheaper to take a small paypal exchange and percentage rate as well as post the game to another country something is buggered somewhere.In this case, something along the lines of £150, even with tax and shiping, you are looking at something like £190 tops. Assuming there is no region locking, it will be likely cheaper to import a machine and buy a third party recharger. Again, not something you can hand wave away.EDIT: Oh, and the machine IS region locked for that exact reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 $249!!!I could buy a PS3 for that much, looks like I'm gonna have to wait a while. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 In this case, something along the lines of £150, even with tax and shiping, you are looking at something like £190 tops. Assuming there is no region locking, it will be likely cheaper to import a machine and buy a third party recharger. Again, not something you can hand wave away.EDIT: Oh, and the machine IS region locked for that exact reason.Aww... there goes a good plan. And SFRunner, if you think $249 is crazy, £229 is around $360. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Aww... there goes a good plan. And SFRunner, if you think $249 is crazy, £229 is around $360. Aww. No need for the sadface. This is why hacking was invented. We get shafted with the higher price and limited (and hugely delayed) releases, so we shaft them by cracking it and Downloading all the games off torrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Aww. No need for the sadface. This is why hacking was invented. We get shafted with the higher price and limited (and hugely delayed) releases, so we shaft them by cracking it and Downloading all the games off torrent.Me no know how to do that stuff. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Me no know how to do that stuff. Meh. No worries. Because of the price and the lack of anything good at launch (for us anyway) In about a week to a month the real hackers/pirates will likely have a first generation user friendly hardware or software sollution out. I know a guy who's really into this stuff. Once a good crack is out he will likely be in the know. I'll PM you if anything big comes along that I heard about, and if I remember I will check in on him from time to time, keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorAllosaurus Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 oh btw that conference was pretty disappointing. I didn't expect anything NEW but this false rumor about a new metroid game got me pretty excited.The Metroid rumor might not be entirely off, apparently Samus and Ridley made a cameo in the Dead or Alive trailer...Edit: Here's that trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Thanks for the video....Now Team Ninja actually includes samus in dead or alive....it was a matter of time, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorAllosaurus Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 The funny thing is me and my friend joked about this before way back in '03. I think we just got trolled by Lady Luck's brother Sir Averages. :trollface: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I feel ya man. This seems like cruel joke, I swear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 $249.99 eh? That........sucks pretty hard As advanced as it is, the general public will still view it as a handheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 $249.99 eh? That........sucks pretty hard As advanced as it is, the general public will still view it as a handheld.How so? Firstly: There need to be certain economies of scale before such a product can be sold at a sub-$200 price and still make a profit. The thing has a dual graphics system and a parallax barrier screen driven by it. It will be the first handheld device on the market with this tech, thus the economies of scale aren't there.I'm actually pretty damn-impressed that they can pack that technology into a sub-$300 product. For comparison, most modern smartphones are $300+ retail (without a cellular plan), and they don't do 3D nor do they have decent GPUs.Secondly: Nintendo doesn't take loss-leads. While Sony and Microsoft are willing to take a haircut on their products at the beginning, with hopes of making up for it in software, Nintendo is not. That is why the company has so few quarters of loss sine it's IPO.Thirdly: In raw-currency terms, the US actually has the cheapest price. The Japanese price comes in around $300, while the Euro price is around $350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 How so? Firstly: There need to be certain economies of scale before such a product can be sold at a sub-$200 price and still make a profit. The thing has a dual graphics system and a parallax barrier screen driven by it. It will be the first handheld device on the market with this tech, thus the economies of scale aren't there.I'm actually pretty damn-impressed that they can pack that technology into a sub-$300 product. For comparison, most modern smartphones are $300+ retail (without a cellular plan), and they don't do 3D nor do they have decent GPUs.Secondly: Nintendo doesn't take loss-leads. While Sony and Microsoft are willing to take a haircut on their products at the beginning, with hopes of making up for it in software, Nintendo is not. That is why the company has so few quarters of loss sine it's IPO.Thirdly: In raw-currency terms, the US actually has the cheapest price. The Japanese price comes in around $300, while the Euro price is around $350.Interesting. What happened to-Remember, there is no "true" equivalency between currencies. All an exchange rate means is how much of one currency you can buy with another.Your excuse for the inflated EU price is also your defence for the high US price?A better argument would be that it's the same price as a PSP Go!, but has 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I qualified that statement with "in raw-currency terms." And, no, I did not contradict myself. You took the earlier statement out-of-context. The earlier point was about how things are priced, and the factors that lead to the difference, not what the actual difference is. The main point being you can't use one currency's price as the determinant of the price in another currency. What I meant by "no true equivalency" is that almost nothing costs the same in one country than in another. A liter of Milk costs one price in the UK, a different price in the US, and a different price still in China. If a liter of milk costs, for sake of argument, £3 in the UK, it is fallacious to assume that a liter of milk costs $5 (£3 ~ 5 USD) in the US or ¥32 (£3 ~ 32 Yuan) in China just because milk is £3 in the UK.Basically I was just telling him that he is complaining about paying less than the rest of the world for it. If he went to Japan, converted his money to JPY, bought a 3DS in Japan, came home, and converted back to USD, he'd still have spent $300 on a product he could spend $250 for here. I never disputed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I qualified that statement with "in raw-currency terms." And, no, I did not contradict myself. You took the earlier statement out-of-context. The earlier point was about how things are priced, and the factors that lead to the difference, not what the actual difference is. The main point being you can't use one currency's price as the determinant of the price in another currency.Basically I was just telling him that he is complaining about paying less than the rest of the world for it. If he went to Japan, converted his money to JPY, bought a 3DS in Japan, came home, and converted back to USD, he'd still have spent $300 on a product he could spend $250 for here. I never disputed that.So which is it? You can't claim both simultainously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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