Perspectives on Fox?

["User"]

(I should start creating more of these character discussion threads...)

Anyways, what is your personal perspective on the leader of the Star Fox team? Discuss his character qualities, possible things he could have did differently over his life, future direction you'd like to see him take in future Star Fox games and, of course, whether or not he should pursue Krystal in a romantic sense or just as a "friend and teammate." :P

[Samantha Weltzin]

Anyways, what is your personal perspective on the leader of the Star Fox team? Discuss his character qualities, possible things he could have did differently over his life, future direction you'd like to see him take in future Star Fox games and, of course, whether or not he should pursue Krystal in a romantic sense or just as a "friend and teammate."

He's a typical "hero" archetype, except a lot less confident in many cases, which is either endearing or annoying depending on your perspective (I find it annoying, personally). I kinda wish he would have more confidence in himself and his teammates, even if it's not exactly warranted in the latter case. Then it might rub off on them and they might perform better. Who knows?

As for Krystal...leave the two alone. They had their chance, but Fox blew it and then Krystal blew it out of proportion. The two would only be "meant for each other" if you think that both being retarded at love is a good criterion for being compatible. I'd love to see 'em grow up and remain friends, though. Y'know, growing up. With Fox in his thirties and all...

[ThePointingMan]

Fox!?! Less confident then "hero" Archetype? How so? http://f.starfox-online.net/sf64/voiceclips/fox-SayYourPrayersAndross.mp3

Heck look at any of his voice clips, not one of them is not confident, the majority of em are overconfident. http://starfox-online.net/games/sf64/voiceacting/fox/ Same with Assault, and if you counting command... I repeat...

Anyways, I am of the opinion Fox is awesome, and that's about as much as I'm willing to dive into it. Also, I'd rather see fox with a relationship with Krystal, it's funny sometimes... just if they go command type storyline then no.

[Blaze the Sage]

Fox is mostly serious professionalism, though he's got a hint of situational humor in him. Let's face it, he's sorta poking fun at himself near the start of Katina; "I've got my hands full... but what else is new?" He's ultimately very confident in his ability, and takes his mission seriously.

He is, however, troubled by his past, and more specifically the events surrounding his Father's death. Whether the appearances of his Father in dire times are a sign of some sort of delusion, a sort of manifestation of Fox's own instincts, or whether it's something more is something we'll likely never see answered, sadly.

He is, however, very inexperienced in the world of relationships, and it shows constantly. With any luck, in future games he'll start to get his act together, and then it's a matter of where Nintendo wants to take Fox and Krystal, and what happens to them as characters as a result.

He also has a great respect for Wolf and his team - he certainly shows it more than Wolf does, but whether he has as much respect, more, or less respect for Wolf than Wolf (grudgingly) has for him is fairly hard to say.

He's completely loyal to his friends, and would happily jump in harm's way to help them, but also respects their wishes.

All around, yeah, pretty much every inch a stereotypical young hero. Except for maybe the hotheadedness, but if Fox doesn't have that, Falco more than makes up for it.

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

Fox is mostly serious professionalism, though he's got a hint of situational humor in him. Let's face it, he's sorta poking fun at himself near the start of Katina; "I've got my hands full... but what else is new?" He's ultimately very confident in his ability, and takes his mission seriously.

He is, however, troubled by his past, and more specifically the events surrounding his Father's death. Whether the appearances of his Father in dire times are a sign of some sort of delusion, a sort of manifestation of Fox's own instincts, or whether it's something more is something we'll likely never see answered, sadly.

He is, however, very inexperienced in the world of relationships, and it shows constantly. With any luck, in future games he'll start to get his act together, and then it's a matter of where Nintendo wants to take Fox and Krystal, and what happens to them as characters as a result.

He also has a great respect for Wolf and his team - he certainly shows it more than Wolf does, but whether he has as much respect, more, or less respect for Wolf than Wolf (grudgingly) has for him is fairly hard to say.

He's completely loyal to his friends, and would happily jump in harm's way to help them, but also respects their wishes.

All around, yeah, pretty much every inch a stereotypical young hero. Except for maybe the hotheadedness, but if Fox doesn't have that, Falco more than makes up for it.

Yeah, gonna have to completely agree with this chere (cuz you totally covered like every aspect of his character and I'm not very original )

Also, I'd like to add that I wanna see him continue to pursue Krystal romantically.

Why? Because I gots my reasons!

[Samantha Weltzin]

Fox!?! Less confident then "hero" Archetype? How so? http://f.starfox-online.net/sf64/voiceclips/fox-SayYourPrayersAndross.mp3

Heck look at any of his voice clips, not one of them is not confident, the majority of em are overconfident. http://starfox-online.net/games/sf64/voiceacting/fox/ Same with Assault, and if you counting command... I repeat...

Anyways, I am of the opinion Fox is awesome, and that's about as much as I'm willing to dive into it. Also, I'd rather see fox with a relationship with Krystal, it's funny sometimes... just if they go command type storyline then no.

Just take a look at him in Assault. He's always awkwardly pausing, and frequently at a loss for what to do. It isn't until the Aparoid Queen impersonates all those people that he finally realizes he's being a dumbass and just needs to get the job done. Then, of course, there's Command. Total emo there, but Assault was leading up to it.

[Blaze the Sage]

You know, I actually have to agree - I imagine that part of the reason he's so feisty, confident, and fiery in 64 is because of who he's facing. He's going up against Andross, the maniac who murdered his father (and Star Wolf, one of whom is Pigma, the man who made that murder possible by betraying Fox's father). He's got a pain-train full of revenge with their names on it.

With Andross gone, Fox's passion starts to dwindle, and he starts to lose his self-confidence, leading to the hesitations we see in Assault and the, let's face it, horrible performance (by his usual standards) in Command.

In 64, he showed no hesitation, only fiery courage and absolute confidence. They were going DOWN. But then, they were the servants of Andross. They worked for him, they were just as bad. Andross had to be stopped. He had to pay for what he'd done.

In Adventures, Fox doesn't have that sort of motivation. He just wants his paycheck. Then in Assault, he's more confident toward the start, and understandably so. Sauria got him back on his feet, Star Fox is back up to speed, and they've taken the lovely Krystal aboard, and even got her up to Star Fox standards in piloting an Arwing. And now they're heading back into the fray to take on the murderer's nephew, and his remaining loyalist troops.

As the game goes on and switches to the Aparoids though... Fox starts hesitating. What are these hellish things? What do they want, and why? And when they start taking over friendly machines, and then even PEOPLE, Fox finds himself less ready and willing to take up arms against former allies. This wasn't what he'd signed up for... these weren't murderers and evil scum taking up arms against him... they were victims, and friends who'd been taken over, and forced to fight their former loved ones. Fox learns the hard way that doing the right thing isn't always easy... sometimes you simply can't save everyone. The fight with Pepper drives that point home, and the advice from Wolf that follows, while Fox listens, it doesn't really "click" with him until he's facing down the Queen, and he realized that it's now or never.

[ThePointingMan]

Fox starts hesitating. What are these hellish things? What do they want, and why? And when they start taking over friendly machines, and then even PEOPLE, Fox finds himself less ready and willing to take up arms against former allies.

You've stated he hesitates, ect, but no example and to be honest, I'm not seeing any of that. I mean on Corneria mebbe, but one mission doesn't mean he isn't confident, just means that mission was brutal.

Oh yeah, I just remembered, if you play... not good... then rather then saying his "Confident" quotes, he says less "confident" things. I just watched a video of someone playing it to make sure everything was the way I remembered it, and hearing the end quote when the guy I watched finished the mission reminded me about the quotes being different. "I feel... tired..." is what he says if you play badly.

So I guess if you are talking about the chatter at the end of a mission, and you aren't that great at the game, then yes, he is not confident. As for the general chatter in the missions, he's as confident as can be, and if you play really good and hear the end quotes he is over confident.

Except when it comes to talking to girls :trollface:

[DZComposer]

I don't see Fox totally fitting the hero archetype. Primarily because, while he seems to have a moral compass, he expects to be rewarded for his actions. The archetypal hero does not want reward, and often doesn't want to be the hero, especially if the story follows the monomyth form.

I wouldn't go so far as to call Fox and anti-hero*, but Fox wants to be there, and he wants to be paid for what he does. Most of the time (in SFAd he grumbles about 'not being paid enough' to help the dinosaurs, but he does it anyway).

*And Anti-Hero is a protagonist archetype. Many people confuse it with a villain, but the anti-hero does good, but only for his own gain.

[Thu'um]

remind me of myself in ways, so i looked up to him now not so much, but thats why it was hard for me to comprhend command.

He is a hero, but diffrent then most

[Shinigami]

Fox is mostly serious professionalism, though he's got a hint of situational humor in him. Let's face it, he's sorta poking fun at himself near the start of Katina; "I've got my hands full... but what else is new?" He's ultimately very confident in his ability, and takes his mission seriously.

He is, however, troubled by his past, and more specifically the events surrounding his Father's death. Whether the appearances of his Father in dire times are a sign of some sort of delusion, a sort of manifestation of Fox's own instincts, or whether it's something more is something we'll likely never see answered, sadly.

He is, however, very inexperienced in the world of relationships, and it shows constantly. With any luck, in future games he'll start to get his act together, and then it's a matter of where Nintendo wants to take Fox and Krystal, and what happens to them as characters as a result.

He also has a great respect for Wolf and his team - he certainly shows it more than Wolf does, but whether he has as much respect, more, or less respect for Wolf than Wolf (grudgingly) has for him is fairly hard to say.

He's completely loyal to his friends, and would happily jump in harm's way to help them, but also respects their wishes.

All around, yeah, pretty much every inch a stereotypical young hero. Except for maybe the hotheadedness, but if Fox doesn't have that, Falco more than makes up for it.

Yep; this pretty much summed up my opinion about him. Took the words out of my mouth; actually. he does also display a few Han Solo type qualities though--specifically the complaints about not getting enough cash for all the trouble he's going through as DZ said.

[Sluggsnipa]

Fox,he is a strong,sly hero.

He respects his teamate's wishes.

Haunted buy his past.

Fox R a cool guy!

[CrypticQuery]

Judging by the little characterization that Nintendo has given ANYONE in the Star Fox series, I'm going to agree with the stereotypical hero-type for Fox, including the need to see money at the end of the tunnel :P

[Matrilwood]

Fox must be pretty patient to deal with the rest of the team every day. The arrogant Falco, childish Slippy and that annoying rabbit that won't stop telling him to do bloody barrel rolls.

As for Krystal, I think there relationship will strengthen over time (remember she's only been in 3 games). Once that happens, maybe they'll be romantically involved.

[Deploy]

Fox is awesome... can't really say much else besides he's one of my favorite Nintendo characters. He always seems confident and wants the best for his teammates.

Anyways, yeah, and he's really good in Brawl! :)