CrypticQuery Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think the writers at Cracked have made this article hilarious, but we are indeed running low on free IPv4 addresses; http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-internet-full.-please-move-on./ Time to grab the tin-foil hats and climb up on the roof with a shotgun! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 They say this about every two years. I'll believe the world is going IPv6 when I see it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You know what I don't get. Why don't they plan ahead? Instead of going "We need X amount of numbers in the next 3 years, make a new system with x amount of numbers" why don't they plan ahead for the next 15 years or more? Or better yet, get on making 100IP numbers per person and then whatever else it is we need. That way we will be read and there will be less of a faff on when everybody and their gadgets are connected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You can't create IP addresses out of thin air. IPv4 has about 4 billion possible addresses. That number isn't arbitrary, it is quite literally the number of combinations you can fit into 32 bits of memory. The reason IPv4 addresses are limited to 32 bits is that IPv4 was standardized back when computer memory was measured in bytes. Not kB, just B. It was considered wasteful to use some of that valuable memory space for an insanely large number of IPs. Plus, when the protocol was developed, no one saw IP networks becoming ubiquitous things that everyone had access to. The internet was originally developed as a military communication system designed to be resistant to failure by routing the data around failures. The internet was top-secret James Bond type shit. They did let a few universities use it, but the last thing they were thinking about is what would happen if every person on the planet had access to it. IPv6 has ~340,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (340 Undecillion) addresses. That's many orders of magnitude more the number of people on the planet. IPv6 uses 128 bits for addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 But that's my point. The way internet works atm often onvolves alot of layers and trickery. It's hard to explain without sing a diagram, but think of it like a family tree, this generation is all the devices in my house, then it's by street, ect. That's a simplification but just go with it. ip6 has alot of addresses. In this room right now I have 5 devices. Currently ip6 is plenty if we keep using the current "Jury rig" system. Would it not be easier to have a much larger address now, let's say 512. True, that is overkill NOW, but long term it would be a smarter move. We wouldn't have to jury rig systems the way we do. With such a system grid computing would become practical for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Uhm, IPv6 DOES have enough address to last for a very very long time. You complain about how things now are retrofits and hackjobs, but I already explained why things weren't done with global use in mind earlier: The internet was originally a Military communications network. When all of this stuff was invented, it was invented with that in mind, not that every electronic device on the planet would be connected to that network. It is ridiculous to say that they should have considered global use back then, as it was a top defense dept. project. Going public was not the original intent. It happened, but that wasn't the reason it was created. Also, back in the 60s, it was hard to imagine that there ever would be more than 4,000,000,000 computers in the world anyway, given that computers of the time were larger than refrigerators. Look at a lot of the Sci-Fi from that period, not even the writers of that shit foresaw computers that you could hold in your hand that could communicate globally in a matter of seconds, yet 50 years later it happened. We call them "Smart Phones." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 They say this about every two years. I'll believe the world is going IPv6 when I see it happen. I second that opinion--Internet's too much of a reliable source of information these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 IPv6 Is already being implemented...Barely... I have a IPv6 for my VPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Yoshi Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 It's funny, I never thought running out of IPv4's was even possible. lol Well, it IS possible...I just never thought we'd ever RUN OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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