Robert Monroe Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 If you like emo garbage that has nothing to do with it's source material: Sonic: Uncle Chuck!! I can't believe he's Roboticized!! Get me some prozack!! Tails: Why am I replaced by a walrus with a backwards hat? Sally: I fit in PERFECTLY with 3 video game characters who came from Japan! *drooling like an idiot* Robotnik: I'm nothing like I really am. And what's wrong with partial nudity in a Star Fox game? You're not okay with seeing Krystal topless but you are with her getting half her face shot off? I love how you want in Starfox exactly what you hated in SATAM. Angtsy main character (grimdark Fox would definitely be this over James), threatening antagonist (Robotnik was decidedly dangerous in SATAM). Hypocrisy much? And nudity would never fly because its Nintendo. What would you ever see nude anyway? Krystal? Herpderp, sure is self-desiring fanservice in here. All this talk of wanting "dark and edgy" shit is really just showing how immature most of you really are, because your minds can't get off of graphic violence and furry ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze the Sage Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 My take: Swearing: Moderate swearing would be interesting. Heavy swearing for its own sake just gets dumb, but when it fits the character's mindset and/or situation, then yeah. I imagine Falco would be one of the more freely swearing characters... I'm sure given the option, Falco would much rather call Slippy a "Pain in the ass" over a "pain in the neck", just as a random example. Don't the Star Fox games have a Teen rating, anyway? (could be wrong here, I relaly don't pay attention to ratings) Blood and gore: Very mild at best. Star Fox does not have that sort of audience. That's not what the series is even REMOTELY going for. We're dealing with, for the most part, space ships and maybe ground-based vehicles exploding. There's really no place for gore there. And even ground-based missions, we're dealing with Blasters on foot. Not bullets. Think the Arwing's lasers, but downsized. If anything, wounds would probably be cauterized instantly ala Lightsabres. Maybe some blood as a result of something story-wise. Dark story: When you think about it, Star Fox 64 and Assault already have this. It's the presentation of the game that's the problem. The story is plenty dark, but the problem is the game's presentation downplays it. Just think about the Corneria level in BOTH games. 64, Corneria's been almost entirely levelled, invaders eveywhere, enemy Commanders leading the strikes... on Katina, if you fail, every single good guy in that level dies except Bill, however, because we're given absolutely no attachment to the friendlies there outside of Bill shouting at us for hitting them, we shrug it off. In Assault's Corneria level, most of the enemies there are probably infected Cornerians. All the foot soldiers, and a good number of the vehicles... and then there's General Pepper. Look at Peppy's two shining action moments in Assault. Peppy puts his life on the line both times to help or save his friends and allies. Nudity: NO. It would be completely out of place without completely changing the way the story is presented. This is an action game, a shooter with on-foot and vehicle-based action. Where, when and HOW would they implement any sort of nudity without it being a blatant fanservice to all the idiots to whom Krystal in nothing but a sex object. And that's completely ignoring how such nudity of this type of character in this type of setting would be taken by the general public in terms of reaction. Keep in mind folks, many many people still find the whole "furry" thing (as the general public tends to unfortunately misunderstand it) weird and scary and overall unpleasant and something to avoid. The key to not scaring those people away from the game is to avoid taking things in that direction. It would be out of place, scare/offend/freak out a large number of people, and honestly, most likely be completely unneccesary to anything game or plot-related. Whatever purpose it would serve would be just as easily served WITHOUT nudity or sexual content. Implied? Perhaps. But we don't need to see it. That's what furaffinity's for. Go there for your naked Krystal fix, don't force it where it doesn't belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Don't the Star Fox games have a Teen rating, anyway? (could be wrong here, I relaly don't pay attention to ratings) Assault and Adventures did but they were extraneous and silly. Adventures had "animated blood", but the only instance of it was one scene with Galdon, where some blue fluid seeped out of its chest. The ESRB is doofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Assault and Adventures did but they were extraneous and silly. Adventures had "animated blood", but the only instance of it was one scene with Galdon, where some blue fluid seeped out of its chest. The ESRB is doofy. Certain staff-hitting-sharpclaw animations looked like a mild bloodspray too, so perhaps they were taken as such. Either way, you are correct: ESRB = doofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deploy Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 The ESRB is doofy, but I know a M-Rated Star Fox just wouldn't work. A T-Rated one would be good, maybe on the level of, say, UNCHARTED where it's a bit more T-Rated than, say, Star Fox: Assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Since when does a game have to be "mature" to be good? I fucking hate this attitude. It's shallow. Angry Birds, for instance, is about as casual a game as you can get, but it is immensely fun. Fun. THAT is what makes a good game. Not tits. Not gore. Not guns. I've seen plenty of gory mature games that sucked-ass. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Star Fox get a little more serious, but we don't need to turn it into a Halo clone or something like that. Star Fox is a Nintendo game. It should always feel like one. Blood-n-Guts and Nudity are not Nintendo things. Some of the recent Zelda games I think make a great example of a Nintendo serious game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I love all the corny lines and the stupid story line in starfox, I just can't take a serious "Mature" Storyline seriously. Since when does a game have to be "mature" to be good? I fucking hate this attitude. It's shallow. Angry Birds, for instance, is about as casual a game as you can get, but it is immensely fun. Fun. THAT is what makes a good game. Not tits. Not gore. Not guns. I've seen plenty of gory mature games that sucked-ass. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Star Fox get a little more serious, but we don't need to turn it into a Halo clone or something like that. Star Fox is a Nintendo game. It should always feel like one. Blood-n-Guts and Nudity are not Nintendo things. Some of the recent Zelda games I think make a great example of a Nintendo serious game. Completely agree, Note the cover of StarFox 64, ESRB Rating: K-A! I'd rather it not be mature so that if I grow up and have children I can show them/share all the great times I had playing StarFox without it being all... un-child friendly, and still have tuns oh fun myself while playing it. I don't want StarFox to be restricted to an older age group, I mean sure I love it when everything explodes into blood and guts, but only in certain special games, not in StarFox... I don't want that in my StarFox. I guess in earlier posts it was "mild blood," I don't see why it should need that either. When I play StarFox I want it to make me laugh, full of corny lines and hilarious puns, not to be a simulation of reality in another setting. I want it to be fun! I'm completely against swearing in StarFox, heck I'm against swearing in everything. A man may think swearing makes him tough, but think of all the people that do it, it takes a mighty amount more effort NOT to swear. In conclusion, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Yoshi Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Well, since Starfox is one the more Nintendo-ish games, saying that Starfox should be more mature is kinda like saying Nintendo itself should be more mature as a whole (game content wise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thu'um Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 no i don't think it needs to get gorry, i like how its kinda childish, we don't need any black ops game play or crap like that, but we could make the games more serious and possibly with deeper conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Yoshi Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Certain staff-hitting-sharpclaw animations looked like a mild bloodspray too, so perhaps they were taken as such. Either way, you are correct: ESRB = doofy. Assault and Adventures did but they were extraneous and silly. Adventures had "animated blood", but the only instance of it was one scene with Galdon, where some blue fluid seeped out of its chest. The ESRB is doofy. The ESRB rating of E 10+ never came out until late 2004. I think Adventures would have received that rating if it would have came out earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 The ESRB rating of E 10+ never came out until late 2004. I think Adventures would have received that rating if it would have came out earlier. Then it should have gotten an E. It does nothing that SF64 didn't do, and SF64 has K-A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggsnipa Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Then it should have gotten an E. It does nothing that SF64 didn't do, and SF64 has K-A. StarFox has always been kid-friendly. If someone makes a more mature title,parents will buy it for their children thinking it's Kid-friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 StarFox has always been kid-friendly. If someone makes a more mature title,parents will buy it for their children thinking it's Kid-friendly. Reminds me of when Conker's Bad Fur Day came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggsnipa Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Reminds me of when Conker's Bad Fur Day came out. Ahh,yes I heard Kiddies screaming everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nope. Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 StarFox has always been kid-friendly. If someone makes a more mature title,parents will buy it for their children thinking it's Kid-friendly. Reminds me of when Conker's Bad Fur Day came out. I love ( sarcastically ) how parents don't look at the f*ing rating before buying games for their kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggsnipa Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I love ( sarcastically ) how parents don't look at the f*ing rating before buying games for their kids. That's my parents right there. My little 4 year old brother plays Halo and killed me quite a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 How about starting off the story of a future installment in the series with something grimmer and darker than what we normally get in Star Fox? Ex: A decimated Corneria with crumbled buildings, darkened sky, and almost 70% of Cornerians wiped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 How about starting off the story of a future installment in the series with something grimmer and darker than what we normally get in Star Fox? Ex: A decimated Corneria with crumbled buildings, darkened sky, and almost 70% of Cornerians wiped out. No. Unfitting to the series, and Robert's post explains why it's such a dumb move to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 For the Star Fox series, I'd love to see something similar to an 80s-styled popcorn action flick; a hilariously fun ride from beginning to end that doesn't try to take itself seriously; it's just there to have a good time __ Or even the Buddy-Cop movies prevalent in the 70s would be a nice take ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Well if they don't make Star Fox more mature how will Nintendo be able to get the series back on it's feet? They can't make more games unless they make more money off current games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Well if they don't make Star Fox more mature how will Nintendo be able to get the series back on it's feet? They can't make more games unless they make more money off current games. See Robert's post already. It's off it's feet because it has lazy writers, downgrading itself from SF64, and tried to be an adventure game. To get back on it's feet, it needs to be Star Fox again, it doesn't need a gritty reboot. Just... read this thread over. Making it darker isn't needed and will probably hurt it even more, and it's been explained well already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 See Robert's post already. It's off it's feet because it has lazy writers, downgrading itself from SF64, and tried to be an adventure game. To get back on it's feet, it needs to be Star Fox again, it doesn't need a gritty reboot. Just... read this thread over. Making it darker isn't needed and will probably hurt it even more, and it's been explained well already. Like it ruined Sonic for the most part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 For the Star Fox series, I'd love to see something similar to an 80s-styled popcorn action flick; a hilariously fun ride from beginning to end that doesn't try to take itself seriously; it's just there to have a good time Heck yes! This is good stuff, bro, good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zorro de la Estrella Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Why does everybody want swearing in the game? Swearing does little to actually enhance anything. You could end up with a Shadow the Hedgehog scenario where I wanted to reach through the screen and throttle the idiot. I mean maybe it might work when one of the characters (probably Fox, Falco or Wolf) say it during an intense battle but even then, I don't feel it's necessary. As for blood, I think Star Fox has got on just fine without it. Again, maybe seeing the characters getting battered and bruised might work but as for an all out gorefest with head exploding and arms flying off... this isn't COD and I don't want it to turn into COD. There are enough people that worship that game. Why pander to their simple needs? Nude scene with Krystal: NO! Build up her character as someone who can kick ass rather than making us all think she is in there just because she has boobs. I think a tasteful scene would be Fox and her sharing some time together and actually letting their love for one another go somewhere (because as Snake says, love can still blossom on the battle field). I think a good way to take the series if you want a mature route is by doing some stuff with the story. I think you could actually build some good back story to some of the characters. For example, Fox and Krystal could still be haunted by their pasts. Fox could have James visiting him in his dreams and when Fox tries to get closer, he can't. Krystal could have witnessed some terrible events on Cernia so she would have to deal with those in some way and through these experiences, the two find solace with each other. This post seems to have been overlooked/overshadowed, but this dude is right on the money. I totally agree on every point. This is the RIGHT way to make SF more mature, but keep it in the low-T rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I still say yes to a more mature Star Fox because of this: Darker and more mature fanfics that have been showing up on the net. With a darker and edgier modification to their source material, said fanworks won't be as much of a ba@#$%dization of the games than they are right now. If you want Star Fox to be a kiddy game, guess what? Nintendo's already overcrowded with kiddy games; Mario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Starfy, Pikmin, almost everything on the NES, and don't get me started on the Miis. If Star Fox stays down that road it'll end up lost in an overworked machine that's desperately in need of a break. Star Fox needs to take the same direction in story as Assault, but go a bit grimmer. Maybe only a little bit of blood and mild profanity. No nudity, but maybe some more intimate scenes that further reveal something buried deep in both Fox and Krystal. And yes, maybe some of that 80s popcorn flick stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now