Deploy Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Well said. I like how you say that while there are sexual aspects in the fandom, furries themselves are not all sexual. This comes down to semantics. Too often we use the sterotypical all-inclusive words like "all" and "every," not just in regards to furries, but also in other things. Example: "All males like sports." This should really be "some males like sports." With the fandom: "All furries are addicted with some sexual fetish." Wrong! "Some furries are addicted to a sexual fetish." Better. Yes, I hate sports myself and people never seem to understand why. They don't say it, but they're basically saying, "Your a male, and you don't like sports? How is that possible?" I find them extremely boring, repetitive, pointless, and bland. And it ticks me off that people are paid MILLIONS to kick a ball around and look tough. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze the Sage Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Personally, I just don't care. It's not that I dislike sports, it's that I just don't give a shit. But that stereotyping thing applies to everything, even what you wear. A few friends of mine back in high school tended to be known for their trenchcoats, and that type of appearance. For the next few days after a big school shooting in... I think it was Montreal, they stopped wearing said trenchcoats, but people were still freaked out around them. There was one incident (sort of) where someone dropped... I think it was a 20 or something, he picked it up, and went to give it back to her. She sort of... stared for a moment, snatched it and RAN. It was simultaneously hilarious and depressing, I think I remember him saying. But it does sort of mark that kind of mindset. After school shootings, all the fear and suspicion generally falls on the people who dress like that, trenchcoats and whatnot. Similarly, Furries get all the rap for being creepy animal fetishists simply due to either the label itself, or them simply enjoying anthropomorphic art, regardless of how tame what they're actually looking at really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I've been over this with vydrach, but I do believe that even furries not into depraved sexual furry porn as a primary at least have it as a secondary if they go as far as calling themselves a furry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Fox Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 If the term furry is simply a label for a person interested in anthro characters, then how is that considered to equal porn even as a secondary aspect? The only way I can justify it is that eventually as a person looks at furry art they will, just like other art, find something porn related. It's the law of averages. A person, however, has the choice to like porn or reject it. In this case if a person rejects it, it eliminates the sterotype of furry = porn addict even on the secondary aspect. Or perhaps I need to understand how the idea still exists on a secondary level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I've been over this with vydrach, but I do believe that even furries not into depraved sexual furry porn as a primary at least have it as a secondary if they go as far as calling themselves a furry. Yeah, I'm going to have to agree. Well said. I like how you say that while there are sexual aspects in the fandom, furries themselves are not all sexual. This comes down to semantics. Too often we use the sterotypical all-inclusive words like "all" and "every," not just in regards to furries, but also in other things. Example: "All males like sports." This should really be "some males like sports." With the fandom: "All furries are addicted with some sexual fetish." Wrong! "Some furries are addicted to a sexual fetish." Better. You're still somewhat downplaying the extent of porn in the fandom. "Some", doesn't quite cut it here. More like a majority if you consider all the polls in the last few years that have been done by furries for furries. I've been in the fandom for a number of years now and if you cut off porn completely from the fandom I assure you the number of people who call themselves furries would drop by like...90% or at least close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 If the term furry is simply a label for a person interested in anthro characters, then how is that considered to equal porn even as a secondary aspect? Because in Vydrach's own words, a furry is someone who prefers anthropomorphic animals to humans even if there's no real reason. They are just "better." Humans are a sexual species as you can see all around you and throughout history. Porn was born from that and 98% plus of the global population (last I checked) at least have a sex drive big enough to do the deed. Thus Furries by their most common, broken down definition would prefer anthros rather than humans to fuel that. The only way I can justify it is that eventually as a person looks at furry art they will, just like other art, find something porn related. It's the law of averages. A person, however, has the choice to like porn or reject it. In this case if a person rejects it, it eliminates the sterotype of furry = porn addict even on the secondary aspect. Nope, because they could reject it through cognitive dissonance, shame, or "time and place." Very, very, very few furries who claim to dislike yiff can actually stand true to their preaching if you were to peer behind closed doors. And, because there's so few, that makes the stereotype that furries are generally a bunch of pervs true, and thus it's more a fetish than a culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thu'um Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 i is leaft for couple o days and you guys start fiting with each other. any way, there is no---- this guy expaians topic well( at least IMO) wich is all the fandom is oppions My link and milkt can't argue with this guys, cause this guy's beard is manlyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Fox 05 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Just to lighten the mood: The only way I can justify it is that eventually as a person looks at furry art they will, just like other art, find something porn related. It's the law of averages. A person, however, has the choice to like porn or reject it. In this case if a person rejects it, it eliminates the sterotype of furry = porn addict even on the secondary aspect. 46. There is furry porn of it. No exceptions. It's a fact of life furries have to deal with. A lot of fandoms are judged by the more extreme fans. For example, not all anime/manga fans are fat people with glasses and no life, and not all sports fans are overenthusiastic. If you, as a furry, decide to reject the stereotypical furry porn addict, way to go. The problem is making other people see that the stereotype is false. And I have to agree with Milky, a lot of furries ARE porn addicts. It's such a stereotype that there's even an Internet law made about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Fox Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I'm not ignorant of the stereotype as I have considered myself part of the fandom for over five years. I agree that there are many who are part of the stereotype, which just perpetuates the stereotype even more (The viscious circle again). However, I am a person who is not part of the stereotype, so this invalidates the statement "all furries are porn addicts." I'm also sure there are at least a few others who share my outlook who are in the fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Very, very, very few furries who claim to dislike yiff can actually stand true to their preaching if you were to peer behind closed doors. And, because there's so few, that makes the stereotype that furries are generally a bunch of pervs true, and thus it's more a fetish than a culture. I just want to add, I'm friends with a good number of furries in real life, and they're all filthy, filthy people. XD Not in a bad way. But it's fairly obvious they're very... sexual (?) people? They openly talk about their experiences, and I have come to realise that furries have a much, much more open view on sex that regular people. Or at least the ones I know do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW0LF Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Ehh, it varies. There is those that are a open book, then others tend to not talk about it. (If they have had any ^^; But, its another fandom, which I am a part of. =D d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxfan-FUR_ever Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I would provide a link to the "Furry Song" by 'Kurrel the Raven', but all those points have already been made. Now as for the issue of whether or not someone is an "open book"...I know quite a few people who AREN'T furries and act just like that. People have to be aware of their own behavior in public, regardless of what subculture they consider themselves to be a part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Fox Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I just want to add, I'm friends with a good number of furries in real life, and they're all filthy, filthy people. XD Not in a bad way. But it's fairly obvious they're very... sexual (?) people? They openly talk about their experiences, and I have come to realise that furries have a much, much more open view on sex that regular people. Or at least the ones I know do. Filthy? But I took a shower today. :mellow: As far as openness, America has always been a bit more conservative with sexuality. Compare this to Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I also want to add that not all furries are sex addicts. A good bit aren't, like me and a whole lotta folks. However, dealing in anything sexual at all is different. The vast, vast majority of furries are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 A friend of mine (known as TGearfur on SFO) showed me an article when I was in Ohio two nights ago about an 18 year old openly gay furry who got in trouble with the law for stalking a 13 year old minor on Second Life. It was quite disturbing because if you look at the guys profile or anything relating to do with his facebook account "gay furry talk" is all over it, whether in his own make up quotes that provoke a lot of innuendo or in the pictures he was posting. The article provoked a lot of comments from many people acknowledging that even though not all furries are into the sexual aspect roughly 80-90% of them were, and that sounds about right in my books. I am unable to relocate the article so if anyone finds it let me know the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 A friend of mine (known as TGearfur on SFO) showed me an article when I was in Ohio two nights ago about an 18 year old openly gay furry who got in trouble with the law for stalking a 13 year old minor on Second Life. It was quite disturbing because if you look at the guys profile or anything relating to do with his facebook account "gay furry talk" is all over it, whether in his own make up quotes that provoke a lot of innuendo or in the pictures he was posting. The article provoked a lot of comments from many people acknowledging that even though not all furries are into the sexual aspect roughly 80-90% of them were, and that sounds about right in my books. I am unable to relocate the article so if anyone finds it let me know the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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