Difficult Games

[Furygun81]

I believe this belongs in here but go ahead and post any games you believe are difficult (can be on different difficulty levels if that's what makes them hard) if it's because they are or simply because you can't beat it.

First of all, Dr. Mario. I can't get past level 5. D:

Secondly, Myth II on Herioc and upwards. That is blooming (censoring ftw) hard, especially that level 'Shiver', I can't beat it at all. And the Great Library, it seems darned impossible.

Also, Command & Conquer. GDI Mission 13 onwards is too hard, I can't beat it at all. I can beat NOD's campaign if I concentrate, but GDI is just too hard.

Finally, Space Invaders: Infinity Gene. Seriously, great game, but the demo's too hard for me (fail on level 3)

I've got a ton load more to post but I'll wait for you guys first.

Also, if I came out as being bad at video games it's probably because I am. So post any games that you find difficult in here.

[El Zorro de la Estrella]

The Ninja Gaiden Series.

Soooo much.

[Furygun81]

Well I can't believe I forgot this one.

Anyone beaten this brilliant game?

[Gene Inari]

Halo 2 on Legendary, or the unofficial "Mythic" difficulty for Halo Reach. If you want a game to mercilessly punish you and throw you back to where you started for even the tiniest mistake or instance of bad luck, those two are at the top of my mind.

[Furygun81]

Now don't even get me started on the THE HARDEST GAME IN ALL OF TIME AND EXISTENCE

Try playing this and beating the first boss without dying at least ten (yes, ten) times. And it's not just hard because I can't beat it I mean that s*** is f****** hard. Don't even try it if you want to remain insane.

I Wanna Be The Guy: The Movie: The Game is a sardonic loveletter to the halcyon days of early American videogaming, packaged as a nail-rippingly difficult platform adventure. Players fill the role of The Kid, a youthful, vaguely Megaman-esque protagonist on a quest to become The Guy. This inscrutable plot, however, is just a vehicle for a wide variety of inventive, well-designed and frustrating jump-and-shoot challenges that pay homage to many of the games you loved as a child. The ever-fragile Kid explodes in a shower of red pixels at the slightest brush from the game's many obstacles, from traditional spikes and bottomless pits to more unconventional killers, such as plantlife and puzzle pieces.

Using a multiroute layout not unlike a Metroidvania, the game grants a degree of deadly exploration, without those extraneous upgades meant to make life easier. The game provides players with a choice in terms of their deathrate, thanks to a variable difficulty setting that changes the number of save points from frequent to nonexistent. IWBTG is open to all players; knowledge of videogaming history is optional, and may not help against the frequently ironic and always sadistic deathtraps located herein. And so, the question is left up to you...

Do YOU have what it takes to be The Guy?

http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/

["User"]

*InB4 Milky's Touhou nerdiness :3*

Also, Command & Conquer. GDI Mission 13 onwards is too hard, I can't beat it at all. I can beat NOD's campaign if I concentrate, but GDI is just too hard.

I played this game back when it first came out and from my perspective none of the levels are exceptionally difficult. Advanced Guard Towers are your friend though for GDI.

[Furygun81]

I played this game back when it first came out and from my perspective none of the levels are exceptionally difficult. Advanced Guard Towers are your friend though for GDI.

It must just be me who sucks at strategy games. I think the only strategy game I'm really good at was Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, and even then I'm no elite player. I'm just pretty good.

Also, I have both PC and PSX versions, and only got the PC version like 4 months ago, on the PSX version I can't beat damn GDI Level 7. I prefer the PC version

Also, trying to not get off-topic here, Super Mario Bros: The Lost Levels. Harder than most Mario games, but nothing I couldn't manage with a little bit of concentration.

[Xortberg]

*InB4 Milky's Touhou nerdiness :3*

He's not going to post Touhou stuff in here, because he recognizes that they're relatively easy as far as schmups go. Reading patterns in slow-moving walls of bullets and tiny dodging is much easier than having to make on-the-fly twitch dodges against a much smaller volume of bullets. There's a reason he's completed every Extra stage plus beaten Lunatic in most of the Touhou games but still can't touch Hard mode in Seihou, which is much more fast-paced than Touhou.

So yeah, Seihou. That's a hella difficult game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udHNLQq8wzU

[Furygun81]

That looks ridiculous.

On another note, Silver Surfer for the NES. Just saw AVGN's review of it and it looks phenomenally hard, just a bit like that game you mentioned Xort* but a little easier (but in SS it's one-hit kills )

(Warning, some** profanity, do not watch if you don't like swear words)

* Seihou

** lots of

[Milkyway64]

Now don't even get me started on the THE HARDEST GAME IN ALL OF TIME AND EXISTENCE

Pshaw. IWBTG isn't hard. It's very comfortably beatable with some memorization.

Yes, memorization. That's all the game is. It repeatedly kills you in ways you can only avoid by knowing ahead of time it is coming, and even on Hard mode you get enough savepoints to make it so you don't go back far.

Hardest game my ass.

And yeah, Xort is right. Touhou is easy as far a shoot em' ups go. You want "hardest game in the world" material? Try some Cave games on Ultra difficulty, black label versions. It makes even seihou up there look like preschooler activities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUOSuwRPhVU&feature=related

This is Zatsuza, the true last boss of DoDonPachi black label. Notice how the guy abuses the hell out of hyper just to survive.

And there's debate over whether this, or dual Hibachi is harder. (single hibachi is shown in that video, after the Zatsuza fight)

Edit: And yes, like Silver Surfer, almost all shmups only give you one hit.

[Furygun81]

Seriously IWBTG's new patch (maybe it was unofficial I dunno) changed things around and I got confused. The apples that went up now home in on you, and I am not a happy bunny.

It's probably just like that NES port (I forget the name) of that arcade game. Memorization is everything. First-timers will find IWBTG ridiculously hard though. :/

[Guest Mr. N]

IWBTG is seriously not that hard, it justs take timing, practice and as Milky mentioned 'memorization'.

OT: The Ninja Gaiden series on NES and Xbox (360 as well), Battletoads, TF2, Tekken 6, Deus Ex: Human Revolution on hard difficultly (1 bullet shot at you will make you go red and get killed fast by enemies if you're not stealthy enough.) and Super Meat Boy.

[DoctorAllosaurus]

The Immortal, Shadow Dancer, Earnest Evans, Ghosts 'N Goblins, Golden Axe (Genesis/Mega Drive version only), Last Battle, Zombie Nation, R-Type, Haunted Castle... I'm not gonna go on, way too many games to list.

[The Shaper]

Hardest game I can think of right now would be Diablo 2 on the very hardest difficulty. That's a fancy way of saying you die once, that's it. You have to start the game over again even if you save. There are enemies in the game which can kill you in one hit regardless of your health, equipment, and level so the only way to make it to the end without dying is to do whatever it takes to not die, even if that means you exit the game and lose your progress, it's still better then starting again.

As far as bullet spam games go, try this one on for size. The title may be a bit misleading, there should be more difficult bosses out there but this looks fairly impossible.

[GameMasterGuy]

IWBTG's difficulty is overrated. Once you know how to do something, it's not that hard to do it. DKC2, on the other hand...

[ballisticwaffles]

Super Mario Frustration.

look it up.

[Deploy]

Battletoads

Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts

Demon's Souls

Contra: Hard Corps

F-Zero GX

and more...

[Starwing_93]

Any Cave Shmup

Gradius series (3 in particular)

Contra Series

Ghouls n' Ghosts

Most arcade games from the 80s, pretty much

Odd thing is though, all the games I posted above I really enjoy playing, particularly the shmups on that list. I have a friend that mostly enjoys RPGs and slower paced stuff, and the sheer sight of, for instance, a bullet hell game makes him go weak at the knees, as it just appears so daunting. Yes, they're very hard games and you need a lot of patience to even reach a half decent skill level at them, but its this difficulty that keeps me coming back to this sort of stuff, difficult games really put your reflexes to the test and make sure you stay on your toes the entire time. Lose concentration for even a second on DoDonpachi and you're screwed, but thats not a bad thing, when you start to get good and can get through levels without dying its a great feeling. Not to mention they really get the adrenaline going, and that is the key reason I play these kinds of things and hate more narrative based games. I play games when I want to be stimulated and energised, if I want story and charater development, i'll read a book or watch a movie. Yes, add a compelling story as a background and throw in the odd cutsene, but dont wast my limited time with fluff and padding.

[chaos_Leader]

Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of time Masterquest. And I don't mean the BS Bastardquest that came on the 3DS, I mean the one that came on the gamecube disc if you pre-ordered Wind Waker, which I did way back in 02.

You can have your finger-flailing focus driven games, and they're tough as coconuts to crack. You can also play Halo games on Legenday (I did it on the PC Halo once, died countless times, and highly enjoyed those precious few moments of triumph). OoT Masterquest is a different flavor of difficult altogether, which will leave the player baffled and utterly confused for several hours on end. The dungeons they came up with for Masterquest are enough to drive people insane, asking the player to do the most bizarre things, and at one point at least, requires the player to harness a glitch to complete the puzzle.

Two words, particularly to the easily frustrated Zelda player: Water Temple. 'nuff said.

[Milkyway64]

As far as bullet spam games go, try this one on for size. The title may be a bit misleading, there should be more difficult bosses out there but this looks fairly impossible.

Eeyup. Hibachi is harder, and Zatsuza after him.

I still think the Touhou series is best, though. It doesn't REQUIRE you to be asian and it is comfortable to play, really, while still being tough.

Two words, particularly to the easily frustrated Zelda player: Water Temple. 'nuff said.

Water temple wasn't so bad. It was fairly linear for the most part (just keep going up and exploring each branch on the level the water was at) so it was only really a single key and Dark Link that are any real headache.

It just seemed hard because we were 12.

[Thu'um]

shogun 2 total war on legendary is impossible its only there just to show you that its impossible

[chaos_Leader]

Water temple wasn't so bad. It was fairly linear for the most part (just keep going up and exploring each branch on the level the water was at) so it was only really a single key and Dark Link that are any real headache.

I personally have never been bothered much by the original water temple, but everyone else seems to find it nuts. Masterquest Water temple is still even more mind-boggling, but there are still three temples after it, and then Gannon's place, each progressively more complicated and confusing than the last. Don't get me started on the MQ Spirit Temple shenanigans.

[Gene Inari]

F-Zero GX

For the Story missions on the highest difficulties, yeah, I burnt weeks on a single mission, getting that right mix of skill and utter luck required to beat those missions.

And generally any game that falls under the 'Rougelike' genre can be classified as 'hard' in terms of video games, especially early examples of the genre.

[Vy'drach]

Try playing this and beating the first boss without dying at least ten (yes, ten) times. And it's not just hard because I can't beat it I mean that s*** is f****** hard. Don't even try it if you want to remain insane.

Let me introduce you to these gems of ragequit inducing gaming.

If you're unaware, Demon's Souls is considered one of the best RPGs made, and also one of the hardest games made. You can expect to die on a level over ten times before even making it to the boss, then dying anywhere from ten to twenty times on said boss before figuring out what to do and engaging properly.

This is the game that gets harder the more times you die.

Dark Souls, is the spiritual successor to it, but harder. It's not a direct sequel, different world and storyline, but the gameplay and idea behind it is the same. The basic concept of the game? It's going to fuck you over as hard and painfully as it can. However, now you don't carry around a stack of 99 healing items. You're max is 20, and that requires you to beat the game a bit for it to reach that. The default for an area is 5. You have to beat the level and the boss within five heals, unless you upgrade your bonfires. You can refill your healing items at a bonfire, but it also respawns all enemies with a select few exemptions. Another big change, no more world 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, etc. etc., there's just one big interconnected world.

These games get all of my rage, and all of my love.

[Furygun81]

Kaizo Mario. Nuff said.