Redeemer Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051679/Yue-Yue-dead-Chinese-girl-Wang-Yue-2-run-bystanders-watch-dies.html This is just heartbreaking. I know China is not the only country with a completely different social values, but this truly shocked me. She was left on the road for 7 minutes, while 18 people simply passed her without giving a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZM Anonymous Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 After seeing that video, I've got these questions to ask 1. What was the toddler doing in the road? 2. Why are those people passing by? 3. Where were the parents? 4. How did the parents lose contact with the girl? I have a lot more questions, but I don't feel like spamming. Regardless, it's still twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 As someone on there said: You should not have to create a law in order to "force" people to help a fellow human. If that is not a automatic instinct built into someone from birth, to help their fellow kind,then your society is probaly already to far gone and broke to be fixed, being honest. I understand it's not uncommon for someone only attempting to help to be blamed and punished (which is itself a failing of the country), but actually witnessing the act and refusing to help, that's not something I can really understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yeah, this story was making international headlines a few days ago. Truly heart-wrenching. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nope. Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Woah... A friend of mine told me about this video just yesterday. This is just... so fucking wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yeah, I heard about this (the girl actually died recently) I don't want to generalize or stereotype, but when I was on the US studying English, almost every Chinese/Taiwanese didn't give a damn about the institute or it's rules and, many times even common courtesy was ignored. Still, it's really hard to see it escalated to this level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusheo Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 you would thinki that they would stop if they a toddler, but sadly, most societies don't do much to go against that instinct...thus these things happen I'm quite crushed to see that they would just run her over and not even do anything about it, now truly i questions china's morals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Yeah, sadly she died of brain injury after fighting for about a week. Sometimes, in various cultures, male children are given more attention than female children. Do any of you think maybe that played a part in this? I know it's an outdated tradition, but it still goes on in some places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Nah, I think that's more of an Arab/Persian tradition. Plus, if the one-child law's true, every one must be precious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Nah, I think that's more of an Arab/Persian tradition. Plus, if the one-child law's true, every one must be precious... Actually China is known for favouring their sons over their daughters, in the past. Daughters were considered a burden and women were seen as more respectable of they gave birth to sons. I've never really heard much about Arab/Persian cultures doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Actually China is known for favouring their sons over their daughters, in the past. Daughters were considered a burden and women were seen as more respectable of they gave birth to sons. I've never really heard much about Arab/Persian cultures doing that? Actually, many Arab and Persian laws seem to favour men more, and we all know about Islam. But that's another matter. I don't think that would be the problem, because there were women trespassers who also ignored her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Jesus.......... she gets run over TWICE and no one bothers to help her? And I thought we were bad with this kind of stuff, this is just sickening. I don't think the fact that she was a girl played into this, I think it's because a lot of people in this world simply don't give a shit, and it's only getting worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Interesting opinions here. People are so wrapped up in their own matters, they even ignore life when it's in danger. So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Sometimes, in various cultures, male children are given more attention than female children. Do any of you think maybe that played a part in this? I know it's an outdated tradition, but it still goes on in some places. Was thinking about mentioning this, as it's what I originally thought as well. I heard with many Asian countries, oh how was it put... "Women are considered worthless, if there's a flood, they will let the female babies drown so they will not be a burden to anyone" or something like that. Didn't think it was true, or at least grossly exaggerated, but still. Nah, I think that's more of an Arab/Persian tradition. Plus, if the one-child law's true, every one must be precious... The one-child law thing is to combat over-population (though if you have twins, contrary to popular belief, you do not need to choose one of them and have the other put to death, you can keep both, but not have anymore children). She was precious to the parents, there's no doubt about that, as they are wracked with guilt and sorrow, but to everyone else she'd be more of a burden to the nation. Actually, many Arab and Persian laws seem to favour men more, and we all know about Islam. A lot of them seem like that, but it's part of their culture that the people do not have problems with, and a lot of the things, such as women not being allowed to show their face, are more from reverence than... oh what's the word... that they're worthless. Anyway, known of a few Western women that willingly became a part of the Arabic culture, and were quite happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusheo Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Jesus.......... she gets run over TWICE and no one bothers to help her? And I thought we were bad with this kind of stuff, this is just sickening. I don't think the fact that she was a girl played into this, I think it's because a lot of people in this world simply don't give a shit, and it's only getting worse. Actually she got ran over more then twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Actually she got ran over more then twice The Chinese girl left bleeding in a road after being run over by two different vehicles and then ignored by 18 passersby has finally died. According to the story, was twice, though I didn't actually watch the video. Can't imagine it's a pleasant one to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 This reminds me of the story where Walmart opened for a Christmas sale and they literally killed one of the employes by running over him trying to get in. It's not just a china thing... and I don't like thinking about it. People don't like to get involved in things. Also, I dunno if I'm missing the POINT of the site, cause I really don't wanna go there, but from what I here it reminds me of that story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asper Sarnoff Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Appearantly, from what I got out of the article, one of the primary reasons it took so long for anyone to intervene and help the poor child is that they were afraid of getting blamed and sued. Many people in China are hesitant to help people who appear to be in distress for fear that they will be blamed. High-profile lawsuits have ended with good Samaritans ordered to pay hefty fines to individuals they sought to help. Wow... what's the world coming to? Sued for trying to help? Sounds like something which could've happened in the US... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Elite Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 this is heartbreaking. Yes, EAC has a heart, but anyway this is a truly horrific story. It was so sad to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner/Technical Admin Sideways Posted October 24, 2011 Owner/Technical Admin Share Posted October 24, 2011 This reminds me of the story where Walmart opened for a Christmas sale and they literally killed one of the employes by running over him trying to get in. It's not just a china thing... and I don't like thinking about it. People don't like to get involved in things. Also, I dunno if I'm missing the POINT of the site, cause I really don't wanna go there, but from what I here it reminds me of that story. That was actually here in NY.. I think NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I don't think it's a matter of just China's morals here anymore, it's the fact that the moral values of people everywhere has taken a steep dive, and it's steadily getting worse. People sue or blame one another when they're only trying to help, and when someone is genuinely in need of help people won't do it because they're afraid of getting blamed or because they simply don't give a damn. And if you really think about it, it's always been like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 It's sad how people tend to put themselves first, before the needs of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arashikage Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 It's the bystander effect. If you aren't involved from the start, you walk by and ignore it, assuming someone else will take care of it. It's sad but true. It's displayed here more or less: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEBGg71BJoI&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 We studied this in psychology last year, using a rather shocking case study. But yeah, the bystander effect could play a huge part in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thu'um Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Many of us live in democracies were the value of the individual is very high. Countries where there are massive populations or very little individual rights it isn't uncommen for things like this to happen. My friend (K9) is indian and he says in india people can get run over by cars and people just act as if its normaly. Infact the cars just countinuesly run over you in till you end up on the side of the road. They aren't tought how important a single person is and don't give a second thought if they see a person dieing. As for male Children over female ones chines do prefer to have a male child. Why? Because males can do chores, get high paying jobs, and essentialy they are more profetable. As for the islaam thing prefering male children is a complete islamic stero type besides you said it was a persian tradtion, but the persains collapsed DUE to islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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