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Awesomenauts came to Steam? That's awesome. Was a very fun game on Playstation or Xbox.

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I fail to see how Yuri's backpack is going to lead to sex jokes.

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Oh Luna, those items. I wants them. I can see much hilarity with them.

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I'm curious how that new sapper works. It says "-100% damage" making me wonder if it doesn't destroy the buildings, but rather folds them into a toolbox.

New MG makes spies going for heavies carry it have to work quickly. This is possibly OP: Fire damage + afterburn + MG damage?!

That cleaver is interesting, though I feel it is likely situational. My next question is can it be airblasted?

The Neon sign is interesting. Don't see much utility for it on most maps, but on maps like 2fort it will be insane.

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Also, does the new neon sign work with Jarate and/or Mad Milk, or just someone wet from water?

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Looks pretty OP. I mean, unless the engie is right in front of the spy when he puts this on it will be very difficult for the engie to prevent the downgrade to level 1.

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That tape recorder sapper is very scary.. Looks like it won't be fun on public server until they nerf, if those items are as effective as they look to be :( That heatmaker minigun kinda looks like it would be useful for spy checking though !

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OK, so it just un-builds it. Questions are still unanswered: What if there is an engie involved who removes it? Does it build back to the level it was at, or does it stay at the level it is when the sapper is broken?

If the later, then this will be the engie's "Pomson problem" in that all a spy has to do is drop one on a lvl 3, and it is lvl 1 in very short order. Do it right before a push, and... If the former, it is actually less dangerous than the default sapper, as the gun doesn't lose health until it is lvl 1. Might make the Jag more useful.

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Using the cleaver now, it comes back in about a 1/4 of the time it takes the Sandman ball to come back, and it apparently says "Dead Meat" in Japanese on it. Also, it has more drop than the Sandman ball it seems, making it harder to use at range.

Oh yeah, it also does 150 damage on crit, and bleeds for 4 damage a second it seems.

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And here is the Huo Long Heatmaker for Heavy in action:

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Going to locate one of those as soon as possible. That sounds like a BEAST. Also, those anti-spy flames will make lone heavies a little more possible.

Anybody know what the base damage on it is?

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Not sure about the fire damage, but the flames don't really discourage spies so much as it punishes them for backstabbing you while you're revved. At least that's how it's been with me using it.

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I want dat minigun so bad.

Also the red tape is downgrades shit WAY too fucking fast. Can you even recover the Sentry after it becomes a toolbox? :

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Also the red tape is downgrades shit WAY too fucking fast. Can you even recover the Sentry after it becomes a toolbox? :

I completely destroys a lvl3 gun in about 8 seconds. That's pretty close to the stock sapper.

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Ok, if the new minigun wasn't eating ammo as much as it should, then it'll be a tricky thing to use as it was already an ammo hog that would lead you to go and search for ammo boxes now and again.

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I completely destroys a lvl3 gun in about 8 seconds. That's pretty close to the stock sapper.

If I save my level 3 from a vanilla sapper in those 8 seconds, I still have a level 3 :|

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Looks like a Scottish Resistance

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So isn't koth_soho going to be the new Hong Kong promo map for Sleeping Dogs? I mean, it's KOTH and koth_soho has been in testing since like April so I would imagine this is it. Can't figure what "soho" could stand for, though.

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What could the new weapon be and what could it do? Fire away.

It looks like a Scottish Resistance.

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It is the Scottish Resistance, the laser sight and the yellow stripes give it away.

The eyelander is equipped as well and, given the glowing eye, has gotten some kills.

This was a killcam image.

Soho being a promo map makes sense as well, as the map does not look to conform with the standard map art style.

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Gray is the person torn out of the Mann Family Portrait. He had been figured out back during the Pyromania Update based on repeated references to the word "Gray" in the various documents.

I'm more curious who EAGLE is. Abscond means "to secretly leave." Was Gray kidnapped? This appears to be a birth certificate.

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Kong King has to be koth_soho's final name. Anyway, I added to the maplist, so it should be !nominate available.

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The Neon Annihilator now apparently removes spy sappers, so it seems to be mostly an upgrade to the homewrecker, given it's guaranteed crits on milked/jarated enemies, or enemies who jumped into water, plus it's higher normal damage than the Homewrecker, minus the extra building damage (not that I ever see people hitting buildings with the homewrecker).

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(not that I ever see people hitting buildings with the homewrecker).

Me and Scouge took a whole engie nest out with the Homewrecker not to long ago, but that's just my experience. Plus crit hammers are lol.

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Not to mention, homewrecker kills sappers in 1 hit. Neon ahnihilator takes 2.

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