Ala1n-J Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Rathore? That guy is STILL trying to make his so-called OMGIMMASOAWSUM Starfox flick? Even after being denied by Nintendo TWICE?!? ... That "Director" is a joke. It's like calling yourself the best cook in the world and you prepare a dish with rotten food to Gordon Ramsay (which actually happened). Seriously, Rathore, you give me more reasons everyday to create a FB account just to rant on your bullshit project. Your script is basically SF64's storyline, with mindless subplots (Falco accused of killing his own brother? Nope.avi) and WTF-esque typos (SlippERy Toad? Wolf O'DONALD?! Leon POLANSKI?!?). Such storyline is OK for a game, not for a movie. You nees a more structured, multi-dimensional script for any movie. Don't throw some video game script like that, even if the game has been successful. Oh, and you also want your Starfox to be so GRIMDARKXTREME? Ok, you've just turned half the potential viewers off. It sounds like you go the same way as those unskilled fanfiction writers who go a-la-Cupcakes (which is overrated). Speaking of fans, you want to make the move for them, right? DON'T TREAT THEM LIKE IDIOTS! When a massive group like SFO tries to make constructive critism or even to help you, try to wonder if there's something wrong with your project and don't shove them off saying you've done enough search or calling them shitty whiners, cause with this you're showing your monstrous ego. And stop this "I'm watching you" or "I'll remember your words, jerk" stuff, you're goofing yourself here. Now onto that concept art for Fox you commissioned. I like creating characters, especially anthro characters like Starfox. But this modelsheet gives me a bad impression. Take note, Rathore, I will dissect the aspects of your interpretation of Fox : - Get an artist : You picked some guy called Daniel "Oshouki" Wong, I saw his dA account. The guy seems to draw well, I admit it. But I think something coming either from you or him went wrong because... - Animal resemblance : Fox should look like a red fox (off-topic : something big N doesn't seem to understand). But that head... it looks like a rodent! The mouth is awful, the hears have been put on without proper references and... just, no. He does NOT look like a fox. This combined with the hind legs makes the character look like a meerkat. For real... Your artguy may be good with bulky human heroes, but he needs to work his anthro drawing skills. I'm not asking for a completely realistic Fox, but since it is your appraoch, try to be good at it. The fact you put a photo of an actual red fox next to the drawing makes it even more insulting; - Overall shape : When I first saw this modelsheet, my reaction was "WTF? He looks overbulked!" Even modern fighter jet pilots are not that muscular. At that time your Oshouki mainly posted City Hunter -like art, so I guess he took a bit too much from it. I prefer a more cartoonesque shape that gives each character a feeling instead of trying to make it uber-realistic with that weird obsession for overbulked anthro characters. Fox is a mercenary pilot, not a bodybuilder; - Thought process : That's enough for Oshouki. It seems that YOU had the main ideas and he was just the pencil. First off, you gave Fox some kind of tech armored suit because "people can see he's a mercenary". So, regular soldiers only get a khaki shirt? Soldiers and mercenaries generally have the same outfit/look. Their different attitudes will tell the hired gun from the regular soldier. Then, you gave Fox hind legs. Sure he looks more animal, but the main reason you had this idea was because "the boots look too cheesy". Too CHEESY? You're talking about vulpines piloting fighter planes in space! It's already cheesy in some kind of way. Besides, from a biologic point of view, people forget that humans are animals and their bipedial abitlity and morphology are the result of millions of years of evolution in order to walk with two legs, so a classic human bipedia works fine for me. Then you just took some animal's back legs and made the character stand up on them. These animals can stand up with such legs, but not walk with these alone. If you look at some bipedial animals, like some dinosaurs, their legs structure is different. And then you didn't think about the spectator's point of view. Why? Because you have to make him comfortable about the characters, he/she shouldn't raise too many questions on your characters. With such design, he/she might wonder "Wait, where do these legs come from? Was it some creature made by humans? He's a pilot, how does he fit in the cockpit?"... You can go with this design for some weird creature, but spectators sympathize a character better if he has human attraits. Since with a human structure, it is also easier to imagine Fox piloting a ship, you should go that secure and classic-but-unbroken way. Ok, I said what I felt necessary to say, if not already said before. To conclude, I'm more thrilled by R3dfive and Fred's fan projects than this poor excuse for a "good videogame movie". Even a GMod random video with ponies and TF2 together seems more entertaining than that! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I am mostly insulted by the way he treats fans, making them think HE knows what's best for them. Pretty much insulting their intelligence. He's actually trying to manipulate because he's got nothing else. I wish I had the time to pick apart every sentence that was spoken in his video but he's really not worth MY or anyone else's time. Also...where's his love for Star Fox? If he's SO IN LOVE with his """""""""""""V-I-S-I-O-N"""""""""""""""""""" why not just turn it into fanfiction or something? Too good for that? Yeah, I bet. There's one thing I need to address here tho.... He says HIS STAR FOX MOVIE IS JUST FOR HIM TO GET INTO FILM MAKING. IT'S JUST HIS TOOL TO GET SOMETHING CLOSE TO A REPUTATION SO HE CAN DIRECT MOVIES. I'm so very, very sorry if I'm insulting this guy now... but he's not very intelligent, now is he? I can totally see his naive and utterly close minded thought process when he came up with this line... "Oh, shit! People need to listen to me because I seem to get nowhere! I need to make them believe I have what it takes to make a Star Fox film! BUT WAIT!!!! How could they trust me? I'm talking so much shit about other directors so how can I prove to these people that I'm different? They think I will only make a Star Fox movie and I have no artistic talent whatsoever! Let's make them believe I have super awesome original ideas waiting in line! And I don't even need Nintendo's franchise to be show people how awesome I am! So NOW they can trust me seeing I don't even really rely on Star Fox only and I am a fully competent artist!" Well shit, bro. That backfired horribly and that is now the ultimate proof that you are full of shit. Also, yeah... ART...I don't even see how he would be able to call himself an artist. Directors are artistic. He comes off as a very poor politician. Spreading propaganda. Great.... I'm so sorry...again..I'm only pissed off because he has insulted our intelligence. I won't let anyone tell me what I'm supposed to like. Neither should you. And I'm very much aware he checks fansites and forums like SFO. Which means he can read this. Good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xortberg Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 he's not very intelligent /thread 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorAllosaurus Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I could do a camcorder lp of all the star fox games and it would still be better than his dumb movie idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myu Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ugh, this guy again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesseboyd7 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I decided to do a poll somewhere else. The reason why so that Rathore not only see the votes but the opinions as well. http://starfox-online.net/topic/10187-starfox-movie-poll/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 HIS STAR FOX MOVIE IS JUST FOR HIM TO GET INTO FILM MAKING. IT'S JUST HIS TOOL TO GET SOMETHING CLOSE TO A REPUTATION SO HE CAN DIRECT MOVIES. I guess he didn't get the memo about needing to actually know how to make movies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myu Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Oh my god I just went back and watched the whole video because he ended our conversation because I said I hadn't watched it all, god forbid - kind of skipped a few minutes because it was repetitive as all fuck. Summary of the video for those who don't want to waste an hour of their lives like I did: - Overview of the games that you already know about because you played them -Rathore talking about himself and how he is one of the "talented genius people" -Rathore tells fans to keep their thoughts to themselves -Rathore asking for people to work for him for free -Rathore calling Nintendo childish for saying no to him -Rathore complaining that he doesn't have the money to spend on this -Rathore telling the fans it's their job to get this movie made -Rathore giving us a lesson on how to respect people who clearly do not respect others (i.e. himself) -Rathore telling us that we have to prove we actually want a movie and that it's pretty much our fault this isn't working out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Oh my god I just went back and watched the whole video because he ended our conversation because I said I hadn't watched it all, god forbid - kind of skipped a few minutes because it was repetitive as all fuck. Summary of the video for those who don't want to waste an hour of their lives like I did: - Overview of the games that you already know about because you played them -Rathore talking about himself and how he is one of the "talented genius people" -Rathore tells fans to keep their thoughts to themselves -Rathore asking for people to work for him for free -Rathore calling Nintendo childish for saying no to him -Rathore complaining that he doesn't have the money to spend on this -Rathore telling the fans it's their job to get this movie made -Rathore giving us a lesson on how to respect people who clearly do not respect others (i.e. himself) -Rathore telling us that we have to prove we actually want a movie and that it's pretty much our fault this isn't working out 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 this Facebook thing has gotten worse my god he is veritably insane, he has surpassed Lulzcow and has morphed into a Lulzminotaur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xortberg Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm having so much fun with this. He's such good trollbait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Xort, just btw, you're pretty much my hero at this moment I can't believe the words this man is typing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xortberg Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Trust me, it's my pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Rathore has quite definitively ascended the ranks to God Tier Douchebag. Like, Zeus looked up from raping a woman while disguised as a goat, saw him, and his testicles shrivelled away. Fenrir was about to devour the world, then saw Rathore and then hid in the biggest doggie kennel ever. Thor hung up his hammer in shame. Satan resigned. All fandoms have their crazies. My Little Pony gets Yamino. Homestuck gets...everyone on Tumblr. Hetalia has the girls who decided a Nazi salute outside a Jewish museum was okay. But Star Fox? No. We get Rathore. And it is glorious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 What happens on facebook, happens, I guess, but we should try to keep SFO out of it, just in case. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I don't really know. His asshattery is directly relating to the fandom; he is standing on a pedastel calling the fandom ignorant, telling us we don't know what's best but he does, expecting us to get behind him at the drop of a hat simply because he owns us. Being that we are the fandom he so regularily insults, I think it's personally reasonable for us to publically comment on him just as he attempts to do to everyone else. That being said, the sooner he goes away, the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myu Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Okay, so and update for people who weren't there I guess. There was a BIG FANCY skype chat between some people from sfo, and some other Star Fox fans, that spurred from the huge can of worms that was the facebook conversation. The "film" was discussed, and points were made. I'm not sure, but Fred might have recorded it. The result is that Rathore has put the film on hold. Not sure if he's actually taken what we all said to heart and is actually going to rework it like he said, but only time will tell. Also, you all missed Fred using a a fox puppet to be James. It was pretty much the best thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Oh my god I just went back and watched the whole video because he ended our conversation because I said I hadn't watched it all, god forbid - kind of skipped a few minutes because it was repetitive as all fuck. Summary of the video for those who don't want to waste an hour of their lives like I did: - Overview of the games that you already know about because you played them -Rathore talking about himself and how he is one of the "talented genius people" -Rathore tells fans to keep their thoughts to themselves -Rathore asking for people to work for him for free -Rathore calling Nintendo childish for saying no to him -Rathore complaining that he doesn't have the money to spend on this -Rathore telling the fans it's their job to get this movie made -Rathore giving us a lesson on how to respect people who clearly do not respect others (i.e. himself) -Rathore telling us that we have to prove we actually want a movie and that it's pretty much our fault this isn't working out It's offical. Rathore is the Richard Kuta of the Star Fox fanbase. Also, you all missed Fred using a a fox puppet to be James. It was pretty much the best thing. I just noticed that on Skype. I missed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluxy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I know we all pretty much dislike this guy, but I thought hating on someone was against SFO's whole policy thing or something. I know we had an issue on it in the past. Not to mention this probably should be kept to Facebook and outside stuffs =x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I know we all pretty much dislike this guy, but I thought hating on someone was against SFO's whole policy thing or something. I know we had an issue on it in the past. Not to mention this probably should be kept to Facebook and outside stuffs =x I think it's just mindless flamming like "OMG U R A FAYGITSDIJFPDSJFPSJFPWAEIPRJWVXJ" isn't tolerated. Being mature and giving criticism is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluxy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think it's just mindless flamming like "OMG U R A FAYGITSDIJFPDSJFPSJFPWAEIPRJWVXJ" isn't tolerated. Being mature and giving criticism is fine. Yeah, cause you know, a lot of the posts lately are completely mature and giving criticism. Lol =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I know we all pretty much dislike this guy, but I thought hating on someone was against SFO's whole policy thing or something. I know we had an issue on it in the past. Not to mention this probably should be kept to Facebook and outside stuffs =x um yeah you were the one spamming his facebook with LOL U GUYS ARE FAG BUTTHOLES while we were trying to make a point, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluxy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 um yeah you were the one spamming his facebook with LOL U GUYS ARE FAG BUTTHOLES while we were trying to make a point, so... Pffft, rules don't apply to Facebook. I mainly did that anyhow cause Xort wouldn't shut up about it while I was in a call with him earlier. If I was to get in trouble cause he reported me or something, I'd gladly accept it. Not to mention, not saying it makes it any better, it was only two times. If two is spamming, then by damn. Over half of this whole community is a spammer in some way that isn't looked highly on. That goes for a lot of the internet too, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Just remember not to include SFO on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala1n-J Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Rathore's putting his film on hold? Well I guess we can all calm down (including me) for a moment and wait for what his rework will change. I had a drawing in mind for this guy, but given the situation now I don't see any reason to post it anymore. And if you want SFO not included on this, I'd post it elsewhere, not here. But if he keeps his arrogant manners towards us and if his content still countersays his "vision"... well, I won't miss the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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