Mr. Krystal Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I recieved an email yesterday from someone who had been browsing our site (forums and otherwise). Perhaps he was responding to the latest post on the main site. Anyway, he presented me with something important to him as a Star Fox fan, perhaps even something we have been looking for. Here is his letter: Hi, i was browsing your site, and followed several links to different articles on starfox. and one thing i keep noticing is that people continuously post negative, doom-sayer, things about all the star fox games. saying such things as "star fox games suck now" "star fox is dead" blah blah blah. and its important to a games life expectancy that people know that a game is not dead. If people start saying a game is dead over and over, eventually people will start to believe it, and believing is what people percieve as reality,and eventually these mis conceptions can become reality. so i'm sending you this e-mail to ask you that perhaps you can remind people in your posts that Star Fox is not dead, its one of nintendo's most lucrative franchises and has a very large fan base. and that perhaps encourage them to make positive comments on forums and on articles. For while the majority of star fox players love the game and every thing about it, the content tend to keep quiet; while the nay-sayers and people who are unhappy make a large ruckus. its crucial for the silent majority of fans who love the game to speak up and let it be known that they love it. it would be tragic if some how the series really did die just because some idiots got online and complained because they didn't get their way with a game, and the rest of the world believed their posts. thank you DG I have noticed similar lately and agree with DG's message, except for use of the term "idiots" to describe the nay-sayers. I ask all of our members to think before you post what message you are sending not just to other members, but also to casual forum readers and perhaps even Nintendo representatives (yes, Nintendo pays attention to what's happening on the net). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvolutionSFox Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I hope you know that a guy with the same name of "DG" was banned from the KLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 I hope you know that a guy with the same name of "DG" was banned from the KLA. Nope, didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 yes we go like "well starfox is kinda sleeping right not, nothing new, always the same" but we don't go "it sucks " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 yes we go like "well starfox is kinda sleeping right not, nothing new, always the same" but we don't go "it sucks " That's all I ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoxMageKitsune Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I hope you know that a guy with the same name of "DG" was banned from the KLA. you may rest well assured, that I am not this person of whom you are concerned with. my point is valid and my intent is good. DG are my initials and i have reworked my Gmail account so that such confusion will not occur even once more. i am sorry that this caused some confusion. (and yes, i am the person who sent that e-mail ) i hope that this will not draw attention away from the fact that there is a problem and it needs to be fixed. thanks ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeWalker Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hey, at least said 'problem' didn't stop you from signing up. Welcome aboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Ratcht Saporro Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 you may rest well assured, that I am not this person of whom you are concerned with. my point is valid and my intent is good. DG are my initials and i have reworked my Gmail account so that such confusion will not occur even once more. i am sorry that this caused some confusion. (and yes, i am the person who sent that e-mail ) i hope that this will not draw attention away from the fact that there is a problem and it needs to be fixed. thanks ^^ Well, at least you had the guts to join. Saved me the strength of typing a "nice" suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blink Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 It's cool that you wrote up this letter DG. I really respect you for that! I think it would really help if we had more motivation around the net for Star Fox games. Shadows of Lylat is good, but it's not quite close enough to really feel it yet, and there's not much in terms of Star Fox gameplay to be had there, since it's more focused on having FS2 in Lylat than having Star Fox gameplay in the FS2 engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoxMageKitsune Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I think it would really help if we had more motivation around the net for Star Fox games. Shadows of Lylat is good, but it's not quite close enough to really feel it yet, and there's not much in terms of Star Fox gameplay to be had there, since it's more focused on having FS2 in Lylat than having Star Fox gameplay in the FS2 engine. Please forgive me if i am off basis or this is unrelated/completely wrong. but from what i have attempted to observe and what i would just assume naturally even without looking, reading, or doing any snooping around at all is: The reason a games fan base will fluctuate is because they love or do not love a game because of exactly that; the game. and not actually the ideas, the stories, the characters, and the ideals BEHIND the game. I think a problem that starfox is suffering from is that too many fans are fixated on the idea that they feel another game must come out, and after that another game must come out, and in a timely fashion. they fail to see the core of the game, the very essence if you will. the people that merely care about the gameplay will come and go, but its those people that are truly dedicated to the game and appreciate the very heart of the game that stay true. because the truth is, if your preconcieved ideas of something before going into it are positive; you are more inclined to be left with a positive experience; whereas if the oppossite is true and you believe that it will be a negative experience, then you are more likely to be left with negative feelings and dissatisfaction. the first 3 starfox games (i'm including unreleased starfox 2 for snes) were all cutting edge games that pushed the limits of traditional games and explored fresh territory while maintaining systematic and traditional game play (ie, each game was pretty much the same as the last game play and plot wise). but when adventures for gamecube came out, it turned the world that many starfox fans had grown to love and be content with. . . upside down. and for those people who valued the game play above the story and characters and what not (i shall from here-on refer to this as 'the essence' / 'soul' / 'heart' of the game) ((also, don't get me wrong, game play is VERY important to make a game successful, please do not allow me to misconstrue that i am saying anything otherwise, as that is not my intention)) , the star fox franchise lost face value. **to be continued. . . maybe** now this post is getting long and i'm starting to try and discuss too many topics at once and failing to bring closure to all of them ((this could perhaps result in me creating another post in the future to complete them, depending on how this one is recieved)) heheh (for it is 3: 47 AM as of right now and i am rather tired, please forgive any errors i have performed; i plead that i have an 'excuse' [being tired]) so i shall close and state this: It would be beneficial to get people excited over the story, ideas, characters, and other elements of the franchise, (even the theories, speculations and other things) than perhaps attempting to keep people hooked on games that have already been so thoroughly discussed, trying to keep a dead topic going if you will. a simple analogy would be "everyone wants fresh food" or "why stare at the peel of an orange, when you can crack it open and eat a delicious fruit?" A games fan-following is limited by none other than its fans. its true when they say that a building is only as strong as its weakest support. i'm sure people feel "oh what can i do to make a difference?" the simple truth is, 1 is the most powerful number. a platoon of single ants acting together can down a significantly larger creature. the number one can make the difference between life and death for people, and even for a game. I'll use this very post as an example. i sent an email of my concerns to dwight, and he made this forum post, and look how many people have read it, and even how many people have responded so far. if my actions as a single person can cause even 5 other people move to action as have posted in this topic, then just think if those 5 people do the same and each cause even 5 more people to move to action in some way; eventually the effect could be absolutely staggering. the way to start change is not to change other people, but to change yourself. and so i've been up much longer than i had wished so i wish you good night. ((also please dismiss this post entirely if it is irrelevant, unhelpful or just plain foolish, if any of those(or any such similarities) turn out to be the case then please forgive me for wasting your time in causing you to read such a thing)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Fox Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Very Interesting point DG, that is why games Like FF7,8, mario, metroid, RE have such a huge following, not to mention super-titles like starwars, where no matter how crappy the game is, folks will still buy it....... if the story is good, then they will follow, and more will come, bc of said following, ninty is particularly in tune with it's fan base, hence they out sell the 360, which graphics wise, blows The Wii away..... so if the fans don't seem to like somthing, ninty won't make it, althogh the web hasn't been too doomsdayish 'cept for the krystal hating bunch, which in my reasearch in the matter seem to be the group that complain about most everything (not to say that this is case all the time, but generally) if there is hype, there will be game, ninty goes where the $$$$$$$$$$$ is (or will be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I totaly agree with DG. It isn't about how good the graphics are. It's about the story, and how faithful you are to the game. If people complain about the gameplay, just remember this, everything has flaws, even the greatest thing ever will have a least one flaw. Thats why I have stayed with Star Fox for over 10 years, since 1997, because I believe that gameplay won't matter unless it has good ideals, and a moving story to back it up. Just remember that everyone. (P.S. I know this post is put a long time after the last one but I felt I had to say something.) <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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